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Quick chat with Ian about my upcoming book.


Transcript of conversation without edit.

Ian: 0:05
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So, here I am with my friend Mr Gary Whitt, and we’ll be talking about his website today because he’s, um, well, in fairness, it’s getting really super duper. Uh, Mr Gary Whitt, how are you today? Hello, Ian. Thank you, thanks for having me. How are you? Well, I’m good, apart of my hip and you know all about it, so it’s casual conversation that we like to have now and again. Um, tell me a little bit about your adventure in America.
Gary: 0:43
Well, which version do you want? Um, 2018 did the road trip, as you know, a lot of listeners, viewers will already know, went again last year. Um, it was the foundation for my alter ego now, the Urban Monk, so that set me on the road to being in your wonderful, uh, company.
Ian: 1:07
Gary, are you getting starting to get nice reviews coming through from your book? How about you, please about that one?
Gary: 1:12
I am, it’s, uh, it’s nice to know it’s been sold well, and, uh, I look at my bank account and every now and again, some thin drops in from Amazon Bless ’em, people that come to the talks have put reviews on about the quality of the book and now my website is starting to get some traction. There’s a brief chapter of my new book coming out, which is why I think it is killing you and it’s getting out there.
Ian: 1:38
Let’s get back to your first book. You’ve had to do a reprimand, that’s something absolutely amazing.
Gary: 1:43
Yeah, it sounds more amazing than it is. But yeah, run out. Somebody told me the other day that they don’t get hard copies because they sit, gather in dust and, uh, I followed your advice. I took it to all my talks and told people they weren’t allowed to leave the room until they bought a book and it worked well.
Ian: 2:01
Can you give us an idea about your new book?
Gary: 2:04
Yeah, it’s moving on. The original book was the, um, how I became the Urban Monk and my childhood and what led to living in the moment of being present. The next book is about the thoughts you have from the chimp or from wherever the thought you have which create an unequal vibration in the body, create an illness. And it goes further than that. It talks about manifesting in the law of attraction, um, and lack and abundance. That kind of thing, but it’s basically about the thoughts we have, the negativity we have, drive a lifestyle of negativity and depression.
Ian: 2:41
On that subject, Gary, what is your opinion about people who, you know, that they’re in say they’re in a situation where they have to make a major change to their life? And that change could be financial, it could be emotional, it could even be one of illness and they just won’t change. Why won’t people do things which are categorically for their own benefit?
Gary: 3:09
It’s an interesting question and I know people that are very, very much like that.
I think it’s, you know, you talk about spirituality and the path to enlightenment. People have got to be ready or have experienced that much shit, can I say shit, in their life, for them to be almost forced into a change. They’ll then decide it was their decision, but I was forced into a change because of circumstances. And I thought it was me making that decision, but it wasn’t. So, in the Bible, I think it says ‘never cast pearl before swine’ which I take to mean ‘don’t throw your expensive jewelry in front of a pig’ because it’ll just think it’s barley and eat it. So you’re wasting valuable resources and very expensive items to try and convince and whether it’s not ready to be convinced. They’re not at that point in the spiritual development yet, and that’s what I genuinely think.
Ian: 4:11
Yeah, I think you’re absolutely right. I think very often that when somebody’s locked into a way of life, they become so entrenched believing that their methods and their modus operandi is correct. They’re almost like somebody who’s a heavy gambler, they’re hoping for that big win and they still use the same process and it never goes, but it’s hope, hope, hope all the time and nothing succeeds. Until sometimes, unfortunately, it’s just too late.
Gary: 4:43
Too late, agree?
100% you’ve got to be ready to want to change, but also there’s that element of narcissism in there that I’m always right. I’ll listen to what you’ve got to say, I’ll agree with what you’re saying, but ultimately I won’t change my mind because it’s based on what you’ve advised me to do. I would rather make that decision, or have that decision made for me as you’ve just pointed out when it’s too late.
Ian: 5:08
All of this I’m assuming is covered in your new book.
Gary: 5:13
Apart from the
oh yeah, court that bit out, yes it is.
Ian: 5:19
There you are, you see. Oh, there we have it. Now you say, “I’m not going to cut that out because that actually is a positive change of mind, because it seems to me that what’s going to happen is our Gary’s going to come along and slap that chapter in.”
Gary: 5:34
Yes, absolutely, that’s my middle chapter that’s the kicker for the book.
Ian: 5:40
Great. So, all in all, Gary, always your full support, your relentless with your support of our work. I know that you are going to do exceptionally well with your new book, which is called “Why Thinking Is Killing You.” And I’m looking forward to reading it and just remind everybody about your very, very well-selling, good-selling book, the death of an arse assist and the best George footings in the world. Excellent, thank you. And how are the chickens getting on?
Gary: 6:12
Very well, actually. Yep, they’re fully laying now and very healthy, building them a new extended run in the upcoming weekends when I’m not busy with you guys talking and doing these shows.
Ian: 6:24
Excellent, Gary, thank you so much.
Gary: 6:27
Thank you, Ian.
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